Wednesday, June 25, 2008

ABC WEDNESDAY - W IS FOR WORDS OF VIKING ORIGIN IN THE ISLE OF MAN



How to combine ABC "W" with the vikings theme? Had to be words that have been assimilated into the Manx language, place names and surnames. It appears the one thing that that the vikings didn't vanquish was the Manx language, but there are a few examples. Norse words seem to be a very murky area to research. So much contradiction of what is a pure Manx/ Celtic/ Norse word or phrase. I have however found more than I was lead to believe exsited in present day form, so here they are.

A SELECTION OF PLACE NAMES

Ramsey/Rhumsaa - as I have said before is wild garlic river
Laxey/Laxa - wild salmon river
Tynwald/Thingvollr - parliament field/assembly/ meeting place
Foxdale/Foss tal - waterfall glen
Cregneash/Krok-nes - crooked (coastline)
Sulby/Sula- by- farm by cleft fork in a river
Dalby/Dalr-by - dale town
Fleshwick - Flesjar -vik - green grassy, spot creek

A SELECTION OF NORSE MANX SURNAMES

Current Name Mac + Old Norse Name
Carroon Mac Thorfinn
Casement Mac Asmundr
Christian Mac Kristinn
Corkill Mac Thorkill/Thorketill
Corlett Mac Thorliotr
Cormode Mac Thormódr
Cottier Mac Ottarr
Cowley Mac Olafr (Gaelic: Mac Amblaibh)
Crennell Mac Raghnall
Kewley Mac Joleifr (Gaelic: Eoile)

Only a handful of words as such are now incorporated into conversational Manx.

Manx language, viz, cleg, from kleggi; a horse-fly; blaber, from blaber, a bilberry; ling, from lyng, "heather;" gil, from gil, "a deep narrow glen;" ghaw, from gja, "a chasm," rift, and kirk, from kirk-ja (this being derived from Greek, kupixkos, "belonging to the Lord") a church.

I hope at some stage to delve deeper with the Norse side of the language and see what else can uncover. It is again very subjective as the Manx language is in the main of Irish/Celtic origin.

The photo is Sulby River which runs into the Harbour and along the nature reserve. Just to be confusing the river is Norse, the reserve name isn't!

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49 comments:

Louis la Vache said...

Babooshka, "Louis" said you should reach around, pat yourself on the back and say "Attagirl!" What "Louis" REALLY enjoys is learning about word origins. ("Louis" was an English Literature major, so that's where a bit of that came from.)

In a related vein, take the word 'lavender'. Do you have any lavender-scented linen spray? Any lavender-scent cleaning products of any description? If so, you are participating in a tradition at least 1,000 years old, if not older. Lavender has been used as a cleaning agent for so long that it's Latin root is the same that gives us 'lavatory' in English, lavabo in French: wash basin.

Marie-Noyale said...

I have a soft spot for low tides...
Great shot.
I am sorry I have not been able to read all your texts about the Viking I don't have enough time for the moment, but I definitely will ,as soon as I can, because being from Brittany , France I find all that History very interesting.
Have a good day.

GiuCe said...

interesting post...!

thanx a lot for visiting my blog,
greetings from Truxillo - Peru

Paulie said...

and W is for WISDOM for sharing this about WORD origins.

Paulie said...

and W is for WISDOM for sharing this about WORD origins.

ShutterHappyJenn said...

Great photo with great explanation! I learned something new today! Thanks!

My "W" picture is now posted in this blog:

Shutter Happenings

Hope you could drop by.

photowannabe said...

Really interesting information and I liked it for your W choice.

evlahos said...

a very clever post. and interesting too. wonderful shot

Tash said...

Stunning photo with the colors & textures. Fascinating info on Viking words.

Blue said...

When I came over I was wondering what W would go with your viking theme this week - wise choice words!

esnorway said...

great W team

pia said...

Fascinating!

Aileni said...

A subtle take on the theme. I like the picture.

RuneE said...

Once again you did it - very interesting. Research into names is very difficult, and you can rarely find two researchers who agree upon the interpretation of anything in this field.

However, I can definitely state that the klegg also enjoys human blood!!!!

Gary said...

As always, an education.

Very informative post.

Gary
Bodge's Bulletin

Jerez said...

Bab, I read a book years ago, Clans and Families of Scotland and Ireland. They traced names back to viking origins and some were Pictish, strange sounding names. How they were converted to what we have now makes me wonder.
I love this topic tho. I always enjoy your blog.
If you haven't read the book, I think it is by Cairney, it is small, very small and green.

Jerez said...

Bab, I read a book years ago, Clans and Families of Scotland and Ireland. They traced names back to viking origins and some were Pictish, strange sounding names. How they were converted to what we have now makes me wonder.
I love this topic tho. I always enjoy your blog.
If you haven't read the book, I think it is by Cairney, it is small, very small and green.

Delia said...

Charnming bumper edition.

Kelly said...

Excellent! Your Viking lesson today was wonderful! I love learning the roots and origins of words! The photo is great too!

reader Wil said...

Thanks Babooshka for all the trouble to look up all the Viking names! "By" means town or city ïn the Scandinavian languages. It still does. I read all your Viking stories! Are you going to have them published? In that case I'd like to buy a copy.

Dragonstar said...

Words and names are fascinating. The derivation is often obscure, but I love investigating. Another interesting post.

Olivier said...

voila un choix original pour la lettre 'W'. Toute une leçon sur les Vikings, merci, pour moi en plus c'est une leçon d'anglais ;o)
is an original choice for the letter 'W'. A lesson on the Vikings, thank you, for me it's more a lesson in English ;o)

per du amis said...

I enjoy very much the viking notes.

Your EG Tour Guide said...

Fun etymology, Babooshka. Researching word origins is a fine hobby. ;-) Very interesting post.

Abraham Lincoln said...

Thanks for your visit to my blog Brookville Daily Photo this morning. I hope you enjoyed my post today showing the baby rabbit eating the hibiscus flower.

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Anyway, I wanted you to know I stopped-in to repay your visit and comment with mine.

I enjoyed reading your blog post for today about names that begin with or use W and I thought your photograph was excellent.

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Steven (Cavite Daily Photo) said...

Babooshka, This is a great series! Love it!

TSannie said...

What a great take on W. Words - and learning their origin. Never knew the Vikings had that much influence over the languages of Great Britian - or at least your Manx language.

And thank you for your visit!

Dusty Lens said...

I have been photo-blogging since May of 2007. I have learned so much on the blogisphere through blogs such as yours. Thanks, this learning is fun. I've said this before, and I'll say it often.

Amazing what these Norse Vikings have accomplished and the culture they spread around that we still see today.

ellen b said...

Wow this is really fascinating stuff. Word origins are very interesting. have a wonderful week.

Mental P Mama said...

Wonderful post. Great lesson in words...

Hilary said...

Educational AND creative.. what a wonderful combination. Another blog to bookmark!

Thanks so much for your kind words on my blog this morning.

Old Wom Tigley said...

Excellent post.. a great 'W' for sure.. Great reading as well.

Tom

Denise said...

Informative and has been pointed out, so full of wisdom!

Great choice.

angela said...

Great photo and interesting text.
I lived on the East coast of England for a while and got used to the evidence of the Vikings in place names and everyday language. I don't know why but it had never occurred to me that they'd reached the Isle of Man..

AphotoAday said...

Well, that was educational.
Thanks for sharing the info.
Great W post.

Daryl said...

Wonderful and worth while .. (working to word it all in Ws)

:-Daryl

marley said...

Very interesting. Love the photo too.

Glad you enjoyed my holiday snaps :)

jacqui said...

Truly great blogging hen. You need to do the Scots connection for me.

Jacqui x

imac said...

Really enjoyed this post with all the info and of course a fab piccy too.

Brian said...

Beautiful blog really did enjoy this submission by you.

Thank you for the lovely comment on my blog.

Take care,
Brian

Petunia said...

Very nice post for the letter W:)

Miss_Yves said...

Very interesting post!
Miss Yves

Liz said...

That's very interesting and a great old wreck.

CrazyCath said...

A fascinating insight into the history of the island. Brilliant stuff and well worked into the W theme and vikings. I recognise a lot of the words (but different spellings) being a cumbrian/borders lass -
Ghyll in cumbria (same meaning).
Cleg - we called them clegs as kids.
Kirk - right across the North I think, maybe elsewhere.

I recognise others too across the country which are probably viking/norse names rendered differently in different parts of the country. Like Tynwald - I have heard of that before as an assembly, and Daleby / Darrelby or similar.

Really interesting stuff. Thanks for visiting mine.

John said...

Wonderful shot, very interesting W post. Thanks again for sharing this stuff.

Sara said...

This is a very interesting post; I enjoyed the information and the photos.

Pernille's ting og tang said...

Wonderful and interesting W-post! Have fun:)

leslie said...

Interesting and educational post for today. Thanks for that. And thanks for dropping by.

Alan said...

Very interesting, as have been all of the other posts this past week or so with all the Viking inspired photos and stories. I've always found it fascinating.

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